Most fiveish thing I did was picking up art at 10yo and thinking "yeah i'm gonna dedicate to this professionally so I can avoid the real world even when i'm at work."
In your Barry video, you paraphrased Father Richard Rohr: "Germany is a Type 6 culture not because a certain percentage of Germans are Sixes, but because when you personify German culture, you allegedly find a character who is obsessed with finding the “right” alignment, the “right” purpose, the Theory of Everything to make all your anxiety go away. That’s the crux of 19th-century German philosophy."
8:40 i've also think there can be a kind of "threat display" aspect to the "eccentric five fashion sense". the compulsion to self-isolate can lend itself to a knowingly-off-putting/anti-social instinct, and if ones clothes can passively deter unwanted interactions, then that choice offers a measurable benefit to the five complex
god this needed done so bad. i'm so tired of every single self-proclaimed five hyperfixating on their own IQ's and their gd book collection as if those things A: are the only manifestation of five-ness, or B: matter
Hello Mr ScrtiptMan, I hope this message finds you well. I would like to thank you for all the knowledge you've poured into me. You are a great teacher. If you would like to give your humble students some homework that would be greatly appreciated. A video on writing exercises, or little bits of homework at the end of vids would be amazing! Sincerely Student representative xD
Ah the good old days when therapy YouTube and writing YouTube were different and I used to watch both and differentiate them… Why have writing videos lately given me more therapy than the same amount of therapy videos?
What happens to a character's enneagram type after their character arc? If a character's core fear no longer governs what they are doing? I suppose this is how a person switches types?
I like your way of deliniating between Fives and Sixes. The "Fives are introverted and Sixes aren't" always bothered me because I hate the western perception of intelligence being associated with introversion. (Not that being introverted is bad obvs.)
I also like how you made a point that it's not necessarily intelligence they seek but competence. It just makes it feel less specific in a way that's helpful.
as a 3 i can see this being something we identify with too. i love your breakdowns, good for people like me that take a lot of different types of explaining to understand anything lol.
Loving these dives into the fixations. I think it's super intriguing and you brought up a physical honing and competency for the five. I the intellectual/nerdy five seems to be the immediate go to for examples, but I the idea of a five who is an athlete, muscular person, or fighter with extreme competency is great character fodder, love that.
9:05 Internal vs external seems like a great way to differentiate the 5s and 6s, in fact, I had made an inner type, outer type, and a counter type categorization for each of the three sections.
Image Types: 3: inner type – focuses on internal goals as a way to impress 2: outer type – focuses on external goals as a way to impress 4: counter type – pretends to not be obsessed with image
Anxiety Types: 5: inner type – focuses on making themselves capable 6: outer type – focuses on making their world supportive 7: counter type – pretends to not be chronically anxious
Frustration Types: 8: inner type – focuses on fixing the frustrations of their world 1: outer type – focuses on making their world fix its frustrations 9: counter type – pretends to not be frustrated by the world
Probably really oversimplifying here, But seeing your explanations on these types I find it hard to seperate 7 from 5. Both seem to have an obsession to better their position in life because they are afraid of being in an unsafe status quo when you boil it down to their cores. What makes them different in that regard?
This video helped me figure out that I don't actually have an 8 complex, but actually have a 5. It's just that my "specialization/focus of hyper-competency/theory of everything" instead of being about some particular narrow branch of academics, ended up being of study of a kind of meta-competency/control (i.e. how can I do every individual thing "right", to control all the variables), which I misinterpreted as an 8 characteristic. Basically, I ended up intellectualizing that I needed to intellectualize less/that 8-like characteristics were seen positively, and saw positive results from experimenting with that, and then just continued to pursue more and more 8-ness like a "number go up" thing. Crazy how good these videos are that it changed my entire perspective on my own core drives. You the man, script man!
I’m a mathematician at heart but the world is so big and confusing that I have seriously considered joining politics JUST so I can find out what is happening in that world. I need to know what’s happening so I can fix it, or at least explain it. Anytime something happens I feel that urge to find an explanation. When people are mean to me online I can’t help but ask why. Mean people are so interesting to me and I always want to dissect them and figure out why they are that way, because I don’t get it.
Aemond Targaryen isn’t a five – he’s an 8w7.
Fabulous analysis. 🏆🌟
This series is like getting an itch scratched in slow motion. Satisfying and WHERE IS THE NEXT ONE IM SCREAMING AAAAA-
Your channel is a such a great writing resource, thanks for all the hard work! 🙂
Most fiveish thing I did was picking up art at 10yo and thinking "yeah i'm gonna dedicate to this professionally so I can avoid the real world even when i'm at work."
dang, why he have to read me like that-
I can already tell when he does 4 it going to feel like a personal attack
holy shit I'm literally a gym bro five
but what are wings…
love the autism point
In your Barry video, you paraphrased Father Richard Rohr: "Germany is a Type 6 culture not because a certain percentage of Germans are Sixes, but because when you personify German culture, you allegedly find a character who is obsessed with finding the “right” alignment, the “right” purpose, the Theory of Everything to make all your anxiety go away. That’s the crux of 19th-century German philosophy."
How is this not 5?
8:40 i've also think there can be a kind of "threat display" aspect to the "eccentric five fashion sense". the compulsion to self-isolate can lend itself to a knowingly-off-putting/anti-social instinct, and if ones clothes can passively deter unwanted interactions, then that choice offers a measurable benefit to the five complex
VERY CUTE … BUT THE ENNEAGRAM IS NOT A SYSTEM OF PERSONALITY TYPES. WHEN WILL YOU PEOPLE STOP TRYING TO EXPLAIN WHAT YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND?
god this needed done so bad. i'm so tired of every single self-proclaimed five hyperfixating on their own IQ's and their gd book collection as if those things A: are the only manifestation of five-ness, or B: matter
Hello Mr ScrtiptMan, I hope this message finds you well.
I would like to thank you for all the knowledge you've poured into me.
You are a great teacher. If you would like to give your humble students some homework that would be greatly appreciated.
A video on writing exercises, or little bits of homework at the end of vids would be amazing!
Sincerely
Student representative xD
Yeah.
Ah the good old days when therapy YouTube and writing YouTube were different and I used to watch both and differentiate them… Why have writing videos lately given me more therapy than the same amount of therapy videos?
Many of us here are probably watching enneagram videos because of this "theory of everything" thing.
What happens to a character's enneagram type after their character arc? If a character's core fear no longer governs what they are doing? I suppose this is how a person switches types?
I think you are confusing 5s with 6w5's a little
ohh and it's another number that listening to it i was like oh this is me. i am all the numbers.
I like your way of deliniating between Fives and Sixes. The "Fives are introverted and Sixes aren't" always bothered me because I hate the western perception of intelligence being associated with introversion. (Not that being introverted is bad obvs.)
I also like how you made a point that it's not necessarily intelligence they seek but competence. It just makes it feel less specific in a way that's helpful.
as a 3 i can see this being something we identify with too. i love your breakdowns, good for people like me that take a lot of different types of explaining to understand anything lol.
this is my dad to a T. he literally has a document on his computer that’s his Big Theory Of The World. we call it his manifesto lol
Loving these dives into the fixations. I think it's super intriguing and you brought up a physical honing and competency for the five. I the intellectual/nerdy five seems to be the immediate go to for examples, but I the idea of a five who is an athlete, muscular person, or fighter with extreme competency is great character fodder, love that.
Hayley ^_^
Can't wait for the Type 4 video as that's the one I understand the least 😅
Nah. This is all made up.
Does this make Dipper a 5?
9:05 Internal vs external seems like a great way to differentiate the 5s and 6s, in fact, I had made an inner type, outer type, and a counter type categorization for each of the three sections.
Image Types:
3: inner type – focuses on internal goals as a way to impress
2: outer type – focuses on external goals as a way to impress
4: counter type – pretends to not be obsessed with image
Anxiety Types:
5: inner type – focuses on making themselves capable
6: outer type – focuses on making their world supportive
7: counter type – pretends to not be chronically anxious
Frustration Types:
8: inner type – focuses on fixing the frustrations of their world
1: outer type – focuses on making their world fix its frustrations
9: counter type – pretends to not be frustrated by the world
This is going to be so helpful. The writing parasites are hissing now (positive)
yesss I've been hanging out for this one! got a MC that needs some refinement and this just hits it on the head. Thank you 😀
In the Mouth of Madness is possibly the best example I can think of for a 5 in Film
Ive felt identified i must hide now
What are your thoughts on the book "7 figure fiction" by t. taylor?
I was thanking the other day that Walter White struck me as a 6.
Is there sone overlap or am I reaching too much?
Do you think Marisa is a five🤔
I feel so called out in this vid god fucking damn it
peak. literally me
my people
Probably really oversimplifying here, But seeing your explanations on these types I find it hard to seperate 7 from 5. Both seem to have an obsession to better their position in life because they are afraid of being in an unsafe status quo when you boil it down to their cores. What makes them different in that regard?
This video helped me figure out that I don't actually have an 8 complex, but actually have a 5. It's just that my "specialization/focus of hyper-competency/theory of everything" instead of being about some particular narrow branch of academics, ended up being of study of a kind of meta-competency/control (i.e. how can I do every individual thing "right", to control all the variables), which I misinterpreted as an 8 characteristic. Basically, I ended up intellectualizing that I needed to intellectualize less/that 8-like characteristics were seen positively, and saw positive results from experimenting with that, and then just continued to pursue more and more 8-ness like a "number go up" thing. Crazy how good these videos are that it changed my entire perspective on my own core drives. You the man, script man!
To say it in tamil:
Sema
Can't wait for type 1 video. This is the best enneagram resource for writers ever made
I’m a mathematician at heart but the world is so big and confusing that I have seriously considered joining politics JUST so I can find out what is happening in that world. I need to know what’s happening so I can fix it, or at least explain it. Anytime something happens I feel that urge to find an explanation. When people are mean to me online I can’t help but ask why. Mean people are so interesting to me and I always want to dissect them and figure out why they are that way, because I don’t get it.
goodbive
enjoying this series. the elegance of the system I am ambivalent about, but it sure seems like a neat tool for creating characters, as advertised