Top Winners and Losers from the Latest Warhammer 40k Updates

I pay 185 (Calgar) for my CP generator… Azrael is cheaper… no wonder everyone takes Dark Angles… Grots are 40 and 50% chance to generate CP

All im saying is some tournament guy running 5 crusader bricks doesnt have 5hit to do with me running 1 or 2 bricks. Not oaying 320 plus an over priced character for each… do the math thats insane. T4 2 wound chainswords give me a phucking break.

I think that the concept that the non-codex compliant chapters have access to the regular codex chapters 'breaks the game' is a falacy. First of all this limits balance to the realm of competitive play, disregarding the potential other ways that players might want to interact with the product. Secondly there's still the case of Ultramarines. Just because they're considered 'vanilla' doesn't mean that they don't contribute equally to skewing potential tournament metas. Basically it comes down to how invested you are to the fluff of your Space Marine army and their colour scheme. If you're fine in calling your smurfs DA then no one's going to stop you. Also remember that the only player you actually hurt with putting up strict restrictions on use of detachement today would be the hardcore players who pick the army for fluff reasons. They still might want to play a storm lance/gladius with one squad of Thunderwolf cav or Deathwing Knights but not be interested in spamming either. I think that adjusting some points cost dependent on the detachment that uses them will probably be the most realistic way of dealing with any balance issues, but sees it as unlikely to happen considering the effort to streamline and codify written rules. The next solution could be to limit chapter specific units to one if using a codex compliant detachment. Of course in that case the same should apply to Ultramarines.

The agents immolatior is Ordo hereticus models so you can’t put reg battle sisters in in your army is sisters

Venetari right now make the vertus praetor entirely obsolete as venetari are infantry and can go through walls

Being mounted the bikes also suffer from the rotation penalties so the move is actually worse

Plus vertus have much worse abilities

The constant buffing and nerfing of space marines to get you to buy new models is a real turn off for me. I feel like a lab rat in a maze. Anyone want to buy a fully painted 2000 point Ultramarine army.

Eldar and CSM player here: I don't know if cheapening the Five Man Wraithguard/Blade squads will make much of a difference because they hit on 4+. It's still more efficient in my mind to run the 10 Brick because of the Spiritseer tax.

Now I do think we'll see more Fire Prisms and Falcons in Eldar Lists.

For my CSM Dread Talons, still gonna run 10 Warp Talons because of weight of dice and the vanish rule will affect the survivors. 20 attacks with a 5 man may kill a few marines, but not the squad.

Do not bring back the force org. It would kill my Crusher Stampede Nids that I love to play. I love being able to use all my models it's about the only thing in 10th besides the Characters leading units.

I completely agree with the notion off buffing underperforming units in overperforming armies. I've played Eldar since 3rd ed. This edition has been a mostly disappointing ride so far of my main faction being too powerful for a large part of it, which isn't fun in and of itself, but has had some awful units from the very start that only now are getting some love and inching closer to a point (often not even on it still) of looking somewhat viable. The feeling of having an ever shrinking army of the same units on the table, and constantly feeling punished for taking the stuff that works, blows. And then having all that to a backdrop of a very vocal minority of the playerbase constantly blaming the players for GW's mistakes. The amount of "Eldar always OP. Eldar deserve to suck. Eldar need to be nerfed into the ground." even well after they dropped into, and down to, the lower end of the balance goldilock zone "because you had a 70% winrate for a month or 2" has been pretty darn awful.

Warlock conclaves are probably still not good enough after this buff, neither are corsairs, neither are shining spears I fear. They didn't even touch Dire Avengers, who have been some of the worst units in the index all across the 14-15 months we've been in this edition. I hope these will get some rules changes in the codex, as I don't think just points drops will suffice. It's good to see GW finally addressing these, but they honestly should have already done so 7-8 months ago when the faction was hovering around a 50-53% winrate.

do you feel that the rule of 3/6 should be 2/4, then? I'm only up to the templars, but that seems like it would fix a lot of what you are saying.

I like the changed to the BT specific non named characters. You mentioned the MSU price didnt change for primaris crusaders but they went up 10 and that part I could have done without. That makes assault intercessors a better choice now IMO

I would rather Angron drop 100+ pts and lose the Rez mechanic.

Codex marines are treated as trash whole 10 edition. This is depressing to me as wargammer and hobbist, were getting hammered and hammered again and again due to F******g dark angels and blood angels and black templars.

if GW was smart they'd just lower everything 50%. they'd double sales n some