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The single dev is a nightmare to deal with. Very vindictive and dismissive, deletes any feedback or suggestions.
17:46 I have also STRUGGLED to get jellyfin working. After tonnes of research within their forums I got mine to work, but after a week it needs to be restarted (won't let anyone stream anything, crazy error messages).
If someone else could make Docker for idiots, so we can bypass the dev's half-baked mess, that'd be great.
Thank you.
TerraMaster's case design is so ugly and look so cheap, I don't want to have it just due to aesthetic reasons despite any specs. And that HUGE logo embedded in the cheap plastic is just tasteless. As if the person that designed it never heard about design as discipline.
No way this is worth $800. Max $600
Hey can you RAID1 the NVMe drives? (want to install proxmox and the VM OSs on SSD and passthrough all the spinning drives to a VM)
I'd be curious to hear your thoughts on the F4-424 (not the Pro or Max version…so…the "Plain"?) and how you think it compares to some of the other systems you mentioned. That's a system I've been considering for a first NAS.
My QNAP 4-bay NAS that I bought in 2018 was cheaper than this.
Granted, it doesn't have any NVMe slots, only has dual 1 GbE NICs and also has a Celeron J3455 in it and RAM tops out at 8 GB, but for what it is, it works.
At almost $900, this is way overpriced.
Nice video Colton. Thanks for your diligence and persistance in giving us this in depth review.
for transcoding in jellyfin docker containers you need to expose /dev/dri (at least for amd and intel, nvidia is a bit different)
devices:
– /dev/dri:/dev/dri
This is the NAS the Chief Information Officer buys, configures, and installs in the CEOs home network.
I haven't finished watching the video yet, but regarding the first question about having good/modern hardware to run plex or whatever, it couldn't be more true. I've been looking for a NAS that could tackle both "NAS" + "HomeLab" + Plex in a single package and I couldn't find any, at least not turnkey solution.
I was really really putting great expectation in the Asustor AS68XXT, and it seems to be incredible (still waiting for 3rd-party reviews off course), but being the "smallest" of the V3000 (in terms of cores even though base frequency is lower) and not having GPU for transcoding plex it's a deal breaker. Not to mention the price, but for everything it has, I think the premium price is justfied. 20 PCIe lanes, 4xnvme, 4-10x SATA, 2x 10gbps nic, 2x 2.5gbps nic, up to 64gb ECC memory. Just a little, really really little push and I can get my ideal NAS.
tl;dr; your channel is awesome and I'm a huge fan, thanks for the great work so far and NAS'ses are expensive (but probably worth it).
Let's start the mission!
I bought a used supermicro with 12 hot-swap bays, 8 cores, and 32GB of ram for $200. Initial outlay was under $1000 for some seriously good performance.
And since it was standard components, a few years later I upgraded the motherboard (for another ~$200) to 20 cores/40 threads and 128GB of ram. Currently running 8 14TB drives in raid z2, and a couple 8TB drives for removable backup swapping.
Synology "rock solid"? Weren't a strangely large number of people losing arrays from single drive failures 2-3 years ago?
Can someone link the 3D Printed HDD Cage at 0:04 ? Thanks
Isn't this a repeat?
Download limit is gross
Yes, and unfortunately no Reed white caching, which is very important when working with physical drives that still rotate.
I'm not paying $900 for an empty chassis with space for only 4 disks. No way. That's about $600 too expensive for me. I'd rather buy something older at that point and modify it to my standards.
I mean.. I recently bought a 12-bay Synology RS2418+ for €500, and that even has 10Gbit SFP+ connections.
great chinese spy device
We used to be able to buy SCSI or SATA disk cages that were 99% metal. The drive sleds were metal. The latches were metal. Never forget what they took from us.
the 12th gen is a good thing, 13/14th gen had all the issues
5 + 2 for redundancy & a duplicate set for backup. So a rack mounted NAS with atleast 14 drive bays. Why 5 drives? you would get close to 100tb storage with upcoming HDDs. The redundancy is to give you enough time from vacation or what ever to swap in replacement HDDs.
What is the fascination with transcoding… Just use devices that have no need of it!
Unraid would be so much better than TOS
Great review, thanks! A bit too pricey for what it offers.
Good review, honest and intuitive checking all the "specs" testing boxes.
Definitely a OOF on price and lack of a few options. Seems they scrimped on a few things, then over compensated on others
The nice thing is they are listening and developing and seem willing to work with the homelabber community
I wonder what a community purpose built NAS would look like…this one comes close but falls short on some aspects
Keep em coming!!!!
I've had a terramaster nas for a while now. First thing i did was replace their software with truenas. Perfect middle road
TerraMaster: hey chatgpt, we have dozens of extremely similar nas', what can we do to make them better
chatgpt: add some unique options that only attract the most edge use cases, and a price increase
TerraMaster: :thumbsup:
Just FYI, 任务 (ren wu) in Chinese means mission or operation, but in software/OS, it means "task" in English. 开始任务 (kai shi ren wu), is what Chinese software will say when it wants to start a task. So it gets lost in translation the task and mission.
Need the same NAS but 8 bay. But 900 is crack.
If I become a user of TOS, does that make me a TOSSER?
It feels like ready-made NAS systems are coming onto the market like smartphones.
They can almost all do the same thing, just with a different sticker and sometimes with a software lock.
TOS is bad. Your issues with permissions and the super old ffmpeg are the clues. Clearly they did not test this too much, they just put it out there.
The Gridfinity files in the desktop tells me Colten is ready to get into a deeeeeep rabbit hole
Can you make a DIY ITX NAS build one time? I’m curious if you can get hotswap and ecc memory for the same price as this TerraMaster.
This'll be a nice piece of kit when it goes on sale for $600-700. Also, the 6-bay version with same specs is only $100 more at $1k, so a better deal if you can use the extra bays.
For me, it is too expensive and TOS is bad if you want more than smb shares. then better keep my old fractal design define r5 with i5-8400 and unraid
Thinking about getting this, but definitely going to run Proxmox on this for VMs and containers
900$ for a 4 bay
For that money, i can take time off work, learn the entirety of how to build a NAS, build one myself, WITH DRIVES
and get solid Networking laid out
maybe try increasing the black levels/exposure a bit?
on some angles (especially the top down desk one) over half the frame is just a black void/clipping, which doesn't look too good
19:24 😭😭😭
Beem watching Hardware Haven for a while and to me, it seems like it's more fun to build your own NAS instead of buying one.
$900 for 0tb of storage?
i got 6x4tb drives for a 1/3 of what they're asking for
Honestly Terramaster has always been good. It’s the software that hasn’t been good. I’ve had one for about 2 years and the first thing I did was install TrueNAS and it was a $350 4 bay NAS
I can see why it's priced so high in comparison to… the 2-bay F2-212 I bought awhile ago. But I think that's for people who are more ambitious than I am. Originally, all I wanted was a simple RAID 1 setup, but when I started exploring what else I could do with the rest of the hardware, that's where they started shoving all sorts of stuff in
with that said, I'm still trying to find a 4-bay to jam my other spare drives in lol
Good to know they are now embracing third-party OSes and accessories rather than trying hard to restrict it. The old one had issues with third party of memory and had boot options hidden to prevent booting unless you completely remove the internal OS USB.