Global Population Decline (Ft. Simone & Malcolm Collins)

I don't want 1Dime Radio to become a leftist echo chamber. It is healthy to hear the perspectives of people on different sides of the political spectrum so that you will be better equipped to respond to them. I suggest listening to the full episode prior to jumping to comment. After you have heard their perspective, I would love to hear whatever critiques or objections you may have to their points. 

Full disclosure: Simone & Malcolm Collins consider themselves to be part of “The New Right” – a pro-tech progressive conservative movement that is anti-racist, pluralistic, tolerant of sexuality, yet pro-religion and quite socially conservative for today’s standards. So even though Malcolm & Simone Collins are quite unconventional conservatives, they still see themselves as part of the Right and are trying to reform the Republican party.

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Do you think Malcolm would genetically select against having a lisp, or do you think he believes that is part of his identity? xD

There is a low birth rate problem, however it is among the elite, Among the poor, the conservative, among the fundamentalist not so much.

These people present good information but still seem like evil psychopaths

I’m a big fan of the Collins’. I’ve never heard of Marxists that sounded somewhat reasonable. Thank you for having them on. I learned I have more in common with some Marxists than I thought I did.

Oxford Professor of Geography has written on this and he is of the left.

I'm not in favor of more people being funny

On DEI: this is a classic case of overthinking. DEI is nothing more than a credentialized micro-industry whoch sprung up to fill a gap in the market – that being protecting large corporations and institutions for lawsuits.

This is also where psychoanalysis and Zizek are helpful. Nobody in there corporations believes any of this stuff. But they whole game is to play along and affirm the correct perspectives to signal your membership in the group and that you know how to play.

Also Malcom is confusing "corporations moving left" with taking up DEI, which is a right wing movement aimed at undermining class questions by promoting arbitrary divisions and threatening displine those who might consider struggling for economic ends

1Dime is my problem with the liberal elite.

Can't believe you've got actual demons from hell on your channel!

"Big industry constantly requires a reserve army of unemployed workers for times of overproduction. The main purpose of the bourgeois in relation to the worker is, of course, to have the commodity labour as cheaply as possible, which is only possible when the supply of this commodity is as large as possible in relation to the demand for it, i.e., when the overpopulation is the greatest. Overpopulation is therefore in the interest of the bourgeoisie, and it gives the workers good advice which it knows to be impossible to carry out. Since capital only increases when it employs workers, the increase of capital involves an increase of the proletariat, and, as we have seen, according to the nature of the relation of capital and labour, the increase of the proletariat must proceed relatively even faster. The above theory, however, which is also expressed as a law of nature, that population grows faster than the means of subsistence, is the more welcome to the bourgeois as it silences his conscience, makes hard-heartedness into a moral duty and the consequences of society into the consequences of nature, and finally gives him the opportunity to watch the destruction of the proletariat by starvation as calmly as any other natural event without bestirring himself, and, on the other hand, to regard the misery of the proletariat as its own fault and to punish it. To be sure, the proletarian can restrain his natural instinct by reason, and so, by moral supervision, halt the law of nature in its injurious course of development." – some guy (Marx to not be pointlessly facetious)

The rhetorical yarn of narrowly focused/arbitrarily categorized "culture" these folks spin to deflect from the underlying material base and its subsequent overdetermined logic that creates the very culture they then narrowly scapegoat is fascinating though. Oh yeah, you mentioned the "all that is solid melts into air" snippet at one point, but I think the full quote illuminates what the "full spectrum domination" of US empire (aka relative "post-scarcity" as guy euphemistically referred to it) centralizing "the west" colonial powers within the brainstem of Washington has thus far allowed those"western" populations within the imperial core to avoid reconciling with via an increasingly technological "strategy of tension" moderated through corporate dominated media:

"The bourgeoisie cannot exist without constantly revolutionising the instruments of production, and thereby the relations of production, and with them the whole relations of society. Conservation of the old modes of production in unaltered form, was, on the contrary, the first condition of existence for all earlier industrial classes. Constant revolutionising of production, uninterrupted disturbance of all social conditions, everlasting uncertainty and agitation distinguish the bourgeois epoch from all earlier ones. All fixed, fast-frozen relations, with their train of ancient and venerable prejudices and opinions, are swept away, all new-formed ones become antiquated before they can ossify. All that is solid melts into air, all that is holy is profaned, and man is at last compelled to face with sober senses his real conditions of life, and his relations with his kind."

The entire issue with nearly everything in their arguments is that society is so spontaneous, culturally diverse, and unpredictable in how demographics will trend long term in regards to extremely individualized traits that trying to develop or even communicate some dense psuedo-religious ideology that combines disparate principles for the sake of trying to change "culture" is an exercise in futility. People gravitate towards what they genetically & environmentally are predisposed to. I think their worldview will end up going nowhere.

Disregarding the fact there is alot of conflations, assumptions, shallow ideas regarding what "Leftists" or "Communists" are today in the West, people are not nearly as religous as they believe, they just arent. Just b.c 60% or w.e it is in the US of people describe themselves as Protestant Christian that literally means nothing. People often believe in nothing. They have no values or true beliefs, they have INTUITIONS that sporadically may or may not influence a choice or reaction at any given moment. Leftists in the West arent "spiritual" or remotely sympathetic towards religious thinking they are literally the largest irreligious and atheist group in the west. LIBERALS may be that way but those arent the same group, Leftists also arent "Starbucks Communists" nor is that a thing. That whole tangent was incoherent and alot of this sounds Crank-like b.c Liberals with disparate intuitions exist just like Leftists with disparate intuitions exist. Its the West. Politics are spectacles that Westerners engage in largely for a hobby not for survival therefore only the most serious have principles. So fucking much of this was just the same old "Right winger over analyzes using faulty premises and assumptions" b.c the groups who ARE principled in whatever values they have those people are not easily discerned visually from those with intuitions lacking true belief underneath it. Most religious people just like most Liberals and Leftists in the West dont have TRUE principles they just kinda agree with certain thoughts or slogans etc and thats where it stops. This "Urban Monoculture" for instance is just an amalgamation of intuitions spread over mass media that originate from a Bourgeois highly individualized culture that sees itself in a meta context as one of a higher consciousness, obligated to seek its own form of justice all self-investigation or self-interrogation be damned. These people act like vibes = hard phenomenon and I just dont understand the need to narrativize that but of course they wouldnt agree with my characterization.

These 2 just like said so much that its too exhausting to get into.

do u plan to interview more people of other "ideas" in your channel ? 🙂

An interesting and thought provoking conversation. Gotta say though the dude talking at double-speed and always interrupting and speaking for his wife was super annoying. I'd read their books and articles but if this is how they talk on their podcast yeah I don't think I could listen to that lol.

Funny! I've been trying to get a conversation with these guys going myself!

Oh goody… Calvinist social darwinists. That's certainly a combination.

if you see someone wearing those glasses in your neighborhood the rents going up

This is the reverse of eugenics, so just another form of eugenics…

I’m a roman catholic who is fairly uneducated when it comes to politics, sociology, and psychology however the Collin’s position on religious symbiosis with culture and the necessity of separation of church and state strikes a strong cord for me. My laymen read of the history of Catholicism to me is that as physical state power increased for the church the higher the rate of corruption is and in tandem the increase in disbelief in the masses. This is why I have always kind of hypothesized that religiousity in the united states has remained relatively higher when compared to europe, because one form of Christianity wasn’t state mandated forcing “competition” and stronger cultural cohesion between like minded Christian sects. I think that religions like catholicism can thrive and innovate better when they have to defend their positions without state force since their apologists have to logically defend their position. This is also why i am terrified by chatholic integralism as its like these folks didnt get the memo the last time Catholics had all that power. I still believe the necessity of having “experts” to disseminate information effectively but there has to be that balance that allows for the religion to grow organically with time

We dont need anymore people, climate change is imminent.

They did have a really good point on the idea of religion though. Esp the point of mysticism