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Windows 11 24H2 Recall comments most make me laugh and have no examples of anything
Microsoft did stupid things that created this amazing amount of people that are totally paranoid
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How is recall going to make it easier to find stuff ?, is there going to be a search function for windows recall where one can type in a word and it'll search video/visual storage for the answer, good luck with that.
They are paranoid about copilot. Now they are paranoid about recall . And you are right .
Recall was deployed to my pc with the last update despite my pc not meeting the specification for it. I have now disabled it as there was no way to delete it. it was effectively hidden until I specifically searched for it, and was sat there quietly without my knowledge. Regardless of whether it is good or bad, a company sneaking something onto my pc does not sit well with me.
While I don't really care what Microsoft sees, for me it's more about putting as little information about myself on the internet. I don't trust Microsoft or any company to keep my info secure. So I hope you are right, and in future we don't hear how the next data breach was done by using recall.
question, WHY are you so hell bent upon defending and pushing the windows operating system when at any time windows could change anything even if it makes your programs you like best obsolete? you do realise that you DONT own your operating system windows but you are LEASING it thereby you dont own your PC either WINDOWS does. I started windows in 2010 and fell in love with windows 7, THEN microsoft gave us windows 8 then 8.1, and 8.2 where features in win 7 were taken away. THATS when I went into linux, THWEN I went back to windows 10 and continued to use linux as well…..UNTILL windows gave us 11 then my hardware would not support 11. so Im 100% linux now and happy. QUESTION, WHY in the hell would you want to be 100% dependant upon any one operating system whether it be windows, mac, linux, or chrome? with linux Ive tried 12 distros and loved 4 of them and rejected 8 of them. the SAME with web browsers, NEVER EVER depend 100% on any one web browser, I use firefox, brave and sometimes vivaldi. would I want only ONE linux distro to be used by everybody? hell NO!, competition amoung operating systems AND browsers is a very good thing!. linux is the operating system I own, not lease. my linux will NEVER changes settings on my PC unless I give it permission. BTW, Im not paid a penny by linux .
The issue isn't just trust, nobody trusts MS, or google or any of the other companies. It's a matter of having it forced on us whether we want it or not (just like copilot). It can be uninstalled technically but what parts of it remain behind are another story. They've even hooked it into explorer as a dependency so disabling it messes with that too.
Matter of fact you can't uninstall copilot…. oh sure you can uninstall the copilot app, but all that does is hide the desktop interface, copilot is still there because they built it into everything….. edge, notepad, photos. About the only thing that doesn't have copilot in it somewhere is the calculator and that's probably on their to do list lol.
And MS (like most tech companies) has a history of doing shady things. Hell win11 itself is one big FU to all windows users, can't even move the damn taskbar lol. Having recall added to our machines presents 3 main issues:
1. The fact that removing it will mess up other things. They are doing the exact same thing the US government SUED them for (integrating things that don't need to be in order to stifle competition and force users to use it whether they want to or not).
2. The fact that it will reinstall itself after windows updates (as copilot does and yes I've tested this thoroughly) which will force the user to uninstall it manually every single time until the user eventually gives up because it's too much work. Even uninstalling it doesn't currently totally get rid of it, I don't even have an NPU on my desktop but I do on my laptop and in BOTH cases recall was still installed (although it wasn't accessible via any interface on my desktop as it was hidden). You can check your own machines via the below commands:
checks to see if it's installed and active
dism /online /Get-Featureinfo /FeatureName:Recall
renders it inactive (doesn't uninstall but does disable it)
dism /online /Disable-Feature /FeatureName:Recall
Also use group policy editor to check administrative templates >> windows components >> windowsAI
there will be 1 or two policies listed there, either a policy to disable snapshots or a policy to stop recall from using ai to analyze your data.
Even my desktop had the recall module active, but there was no mention of recall anywhere on my machine, but it was still there in the background.
3. And this is the real kicker….. security. Yes, yes yes, I know all the things MS has planned to keep it secure. Except MS has a reputation for not even securing it's own stuff. How many times have outlook, exchange etc been hacked? I stopped counting. MS is asking us to trust them to secure all that info, yet they can't even secure their own servers etc. You must see how that's a hard pill to swallow….. The mere fact that they put it out there the first time with all those security holes tells you all you need to know about their security efforts. They do the bare minimum at most and that isn't good enough and MS has yet to prove that it will actually be able to secure it. I give it a month or less before someone manages to find a way to get that info off of other ppl's computers. Only took a day the first time.
For me, as a windows insider I expect some BS from MS, sometimes it's even fun to see how badly they can F stuff up. And I don't do anything on this machine that would be worth anything to MS, google or a hacker anyways. Not unless my youtube view history is all of a sudden worth something (doubt dozens of tech channels and videos will be of interest to anyone lol).
So forcing something on us that some ppl don't want and asking us to trust that they secure it when their own history proves they probably can't, is a bit much.
And no I'm not an MS basher (except for when they deserve it :P). I've been using computers since the dos days, before windows even existed. But they are getting out of hand with shoehorning things like ads, copilot etc into everything they can just to make more $. They used to actually care about users, since Bill Gates left it's become all about maximizing profit and to hell with what the user want. MS only does what makes them money and it's the users that suffer the consequences, both in loss of features and security.
I tried using recall on my laptop (which does have an NPU) but I personally didn't find it all that useful, so I uninstalled it. But imagine my surprise when I started hearing it was going to be installed anyways and checked both my laptop and desktop with dism and found recall was still active even after I had uninstalled it.
I agree. At some point the people complaining from the linux side it just becomes noise. I am not discounting the complaints… just there is more to talk about honestly. at least we can remove it, right?
Can you uninstall Recall? I heard it will be in on 24H2
Excellent video!
Thanks, that was refreshing after hearing all the MS bashing from so many. I'm not a fan of MS, I have fond memories of Amiga OS which was the best OS ever, but it's long gone now. MS frustrates me because it's still so rooted in the past; we still can't even put a colon in a file name, for heaven's sake. I'm now starting a new build, and I'd like to keep Win 10- it's far from perfect but at least I know how to make it do what I want it to do- but it looks like I'll have to change to Win 11 (though so far I haven't heard much good about 11, only bad.) I'll try to keep an open mind, and you're right: Recall might be great. Or it might suck; either way, the NSA is already scooping up electronic data about each & every one of us, and I fear our corrupt gov't far more than I do MS!
Recall is only on Copilot+ PCs and can be disabled/uninstalled
me im getting 24h2 but i have to wait about 6 months for all the bugs to get fixed
I’d laugh if I wasn’t crying.. there is a well known and respected YouTuber using this crap as click bait! The more ridiculous the conspiracy, the faster people believe it!
I didn't get 24H2 on October 8th
This is all crazy. It's a never ending thing. I could care less if Microsoft looks at my data. I have nothing to hide and the things I do on my PC are pretty boring. But if you're all worried about it why not go farther than just Microsoft?
What if Google is harvesting your data? What if your local grocery store or gas station is sending data on everything you purchased back somewhere ? What if that smart phone is listening and sending everything you do or every place you go back? Oh my God I can't handle it! I'm going to go in the mountains and live off grid.
Come on already. I'm getting close to 60 years old and I have some health issues. For the last 5 years or so I've adapted the "I don't give a S#$t outlook.
I don't care about Microsoft's practices or AI, or what apps they come out with. If it's useful I will use it. I don't care about politics, politicians, celebrity crap, or anything else. My only cares are my wife and close family. Everything else is just crap and nonsense to me.
A big percentage of people think they are way more important than they actually are. I see them out in public talking as loud as they can into a phone they have become a slave to just so you can hear how important they are. Well I got news for you. When your time is up and you're gone, no one is going to remember you very long, and NO ONE Is going to care and eventually remember anything you did in your life, what you did, on your PC, how many people you knew, how many friends you had on FB, how many Subs or follows you had on Twitter, YouTube, Facebook any of the things you did and so on.
It's very liberating when you just don't care about any of that crap anymore. If one is paranoid about everything, then just don't use a computer, or Windows, Linux, Android, apple or a smart phone. Because no matter what you do, from buying gas, groceries, or any other products, if they want to get and use your data for advertising you can't stop it. Just accept it or go live off the land in the remote woods somewhere.
If my PC would run recall, I would gladly use it. I don't like complicated things as much now that I'm an old F@¢K. So if something can make any task easier that's great to me.
I am getting sick of all of these fan boys Lennox windows and Apple. Use what you are more comfortable with I use windows and an Apple product every single day I also use a Linux OS for my tv. My point is weather you use one or all of these products on a daily basis or not does not mean you have to bash the other companies people who do that are acting like little kids.
how can you trust a closed source software with deep access to your hardware ???
Is Enterprise meant/designed for larger corporations with a lot of networking going on?
I had Recall a few yrs ago on 10 Pro and I did not like it at all. For me useless came to mind at the time. Some may like it though