๐ We know that Phoenix A* is 100B SolarMass (SM), and TON 618 is 66B SM. But both of these masses are not relevant today. Like, we see space objects like they were thousands or billions years ago (depending on how far away the observed object is). Physics cannot โliveโ separately from time. It means that the data that we now have on hand doesn't correspond to the characteristics at the current moment of existing the black hole (for itself, not for the observer from the Earth!)
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1โฃ PHOENIX A* โซ๏ธ Look, we have Phoenix A*, which is 100B SM. It took 5.86 billion years (source: Wiki) for light to travel to reach the Earth, so we see it as it was 5.86 billion years ago โซ๏ธ We also know that Phoenix A* grows by 60 SM per year (source: Wiki). Anyways, that's 5.86 billion years ago information, today's one may be way different, depending on how dense the cosmic environment the black hole has been in over the past 5.86 billion years. โซ๏ธ We're doing some calculations… ๐น 5.86B years ร 60 SM = 351.6B SM ๐น 100B SM + 351.6B SM = 451.6B SM โถ Phoenix A*: 451.6B SM
2โฃ TON 618 โซ๏ธ TON 618 is 66B SM. It took 10.8 billion years (source: Wiki) for light to travel from TON 618 to Earth, so we see it as it was 10.8B years ago โซ๏ธ Unfortunately, I didn't find any information about black hole's growing rate (or there's still no information about it..? If you find something, say to me!), so let's estimate: 50 SM per year (Itโs OK to estimate and guess, based on the information that we have now (Phoenix A*: 60 SM per year), as long as it doesnโt violate the laws of physics and existence). โซ๏ธ Some calculations… ๐น 10.8B years ร 50 SM = 540B SM ๐น 540B SM + 66B SM = 606B SM โถ TON 618: 606 billion SM
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โ Naturally, all calculations are VERY approximate. It's based on the data that humanity has now, it's nearly impossible to accurately determine the current physical characteristics of the black holes, since this is influenced by a huge number of factors: changes in the density of the space environment, matter around, which need to be constantly monitored, changes recorded, etc., and maybe something else… But I think I got the point across..?
The Phoenix A Black Hole is a supermassive black hole residing at the core of the Phoenix Cluster A, an enormous galaxy cluster located approximately 5.7 billion light years away from Earth. It exhibits characteristics typical of an active galactic nucleus, contributing to the cluster's overall dynamics
Ton 618 is still biggest bc of 2 reasons 1. PheonixA is WAY closer and scientists are still trying to find out of its actually bigger or dos it just look bigger bc its closer to earth then 618 2. PHEONIX A isnt even confirmed yet, scientists are also trying to find out if it's even a black hole or just a giant star
Also when i day scientist i man astronomers so dont yell at me
TON 618: PHOENIX Oh, don't you think it's strange? That some little buggers are comparing us to each other, even though we are so far away that we won't even see each other for the next BILLIONS OF YEARS. PHOENIX A: Shhhhhh let them continue shitting)
Ton 618. ๐๐คฎ๐คฎ๐คฎ๐คฎ๐คฎ๐คฎ. Poenix a ๐๐คฎ๐คฎ๐คฎ๐คฎ๐คฎ๐คฎ๐คฎ pero abell 1201๐๐ฆ๐ฆ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ณ๏ธ
Wanna know a cool fact tho thatโll make you feel literally an infinite amount of times smaller? Phoenix A can fit 400 quadrillion earths in it or something like that. Iโm telling you so you get the size. But guess what? The black void around Phoenix A can fit (hypothetically) an infinite amount of Phoenix Aโs in its space. Hence why the black void is called โspaceโ. We literally do not have any other word come close enough to describing it as well as that. Because the only thing we can see is โspaceโ
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That aint phoenix A,thats a whole black hole!
Casoh is bigger
Phoenix is grandfather of ton 168 ๐
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๐ We know that Phoenix A* is 100B SolarMass (SM), and TON 618 is 66B SM. But both of these masses are not relevant today. Like, we see space objects like they were thousands or billions years ago (depending on how far away the observed object is). Physics cannot โliveโ separately from time. It means that the data that we now have on hand doesn't correspond to the characteristics at the current moment of existing the black hole (for itself, not for the observer from the Earth!)
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1โฃ PHOENIX A*
โซ๏ธ Look, we have Phoenix A*, which is 100B SM. It took 5.86 billion years (source: Wiki) for light to travel to reach the Earth, so we see it as it was 5.86 billion years ago
โซ๏ธ We also know that Phoenix A* grows by 60 SM per year (source: Wiki). Anyways, that's 5.86 billion years ago information, today's one may be way different, depending on how dense the cosmic environment the black hole has been in over the past 5.86 billion years.
โซ๏ธ We're doing some calculations…
๐น 5.86B years ร 60 SM = 351.6B SM
๐น 100B SM + 351.6B SM = 451.6B SM
โถ Phoenix A*: 451.6B SM
2โฃ TON 618
โซ๏ธ TON 618 is 66B SM. It took 10.8 billion years (source: Wiki) for light to travel from TON 618 to Earth, so we see it as it was 10.8B years ago
โซ๏ธ Unfortunately, I didn't find any information about black hole's growing rate (or there's still no information about it..? If you find something, say to me!), so let's estimate: 50 SM per year (Itโs OK to estimate and guess, based on the information that we have now (Phoenix A*: 60 SM per year), as long as it doesnโt violate the laws of physics and existence).
โซ๏ธ Some calculations…
๐น 10.8B years ร 50 SM = 540B SM
๐น 540B SM + 66B SM = 606B SM
โถ TON 618: 606 billion SM
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โ Naturally, all calculations are VERY approximate. It's based on the data that humanity has now, it's nearly impossible to accurately determine the current physical characteristics of the black holes, since this is influenced by a huge number of factors: changes in the density of the space environment, matter around, which need to be constantly monitored, changes recorded, etc., and maybe something else… But I think I got the point across..?
BRUH๐
The Phoenix A Black Hole is a supermassive black hole residing at the core of the Phoenix Cluster A, an enormous galaxy cluster located approximately 5.7 billion light years away from Earth. It exhibits characteristics typical of an active galactic nucleus, contributing to the cluster's overall dynamics
Ton 618 is the largest with 606 BILLION sm and 3T kilometers
Phoenix A
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Kendall's black hole๐
Bruh i hate this shitty new trollge
Ton 618: iโm the biggest
Phoneix A: oh now thatโs a lie
TrES-4 : ur Daddy is here ๐ฟ๐ฟ๐ฟ๐ป๐ป
pov just a troll looking at me when watching the vid
I heard itโs just a theory tho
Ton 618 is still biggest bc of 2 reasons 1. PheonixA is WAY closer and scientists are still trying to find out of its actually bigger or dos it just look bigger bc its closer to earth then 618 2. PHEONIX A isnt even confirmed yet, scientists are also trying to find out if it's even a black hole or just a giant star
Also when i day scientist i man astronomers so dont yell at me
So Fake
Ton 618 66 bilhoes phoenix A 100 bilhoes
That is not a Phoenix that is a black hole
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Abell 1201 is the biggest now discover by stronomer
I also said that ton 618 is largest blackhole!
Ort cloud is the final limit of the solar system and it is bigger than both of them and it is 5000AU
Phoenix a Is More dangerous what Ton 610
no no no TON 618 vs PHOENIX Asรญ si
Ton 618 + pheonex A = pheonex 618
Bro it's phoenix A* not phoenix A because it's a galaxy
TON 618: PHOENIX Oh, don't you think it's strange? That some little buggers are comparing us to each other, even though we are so far away that we won't even see each other for the next BILLIONS OF YEARS.
PHOENIX A: Shhhhhh let them continue shitting)
Fun fact: the actual biggest one is ball 1201
If two phoenix a it will became a phoenix b๐ณ
SOMEONE: TON 618 IS
THE LARGEST!
PHOENIX A:
Itโs true that ton-618 is bigger than Phoenix A search it if you donโt believe me.
Um actually ๐๐ต rn ton 618 is a lot more bigger
No body notice pheonix A was orignially the no.56 biggest when Ton 168 when was the biggest'
Abell 1201๐โ
10 b years later:hey ant phoneix a
ABELL 1201 ๐๐๐๐
Ton-618 mide aproximadamente:3.00 de largo y de ancho
Ton 618. ๐๐คฎ๐คฎ๐คฎ๐คฎ๐คฎ๐คฎ. Poenix a ๐๐คฎ๐คฎ๐คฎ๐คฎ๐คฎ๐คฎ๐คฎ pero abell 1201๐๐ฆ๐ฆ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ณ๏ธ
Wanna know a cool fact tho thatโll make you feel literally an infinite amount of times smaller? Phoenix A can fit 400 quadrillion earths in it or something like that. Iโm telling you so you get the size. But guess what? The black void around Phoenix A can fit (hypothetically) an infinite amount of Phoenix Aโs in its space. Hence why the black void is called โspaceโ. We literally do not have any other word come close enough to describing it as well as that. Because the only thing we can see is โspaceโ
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