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I tried Zed the other day, and I was unimpressed with its feature set and configurability (and the defaults chosen in place of it). It can't (currently) render indent guides in the file tree. It can't match braces the way VSC does. It can't even begin to compete with your options in regards to version control. It sure can edit text, but… is that it?
Maybe it does perform better. But what's the point if I have to sacrifice usability, reducing my productivity far more than it could possibly help me gain?
The fact that he is impressed by 40% GPU usage for scrolling is nuts. It just shows how steep the nosedive in software performance has become. The software industry should hang its head in shame. It is embarrassing.
10X Editor is my favorite.
All-the-rage editors come and go… Emacs stays 😉
A little more serious: If your typing speed is the limiting factor of your productivity, it must be pretty dumb code you are writing. Code, which requires no time of thinking. i.e. boilerplate code or stuff, you could probably shrink down to something minimal, if only you did a little bit of thinking now and then… should not be written in the first place. Just wait a year longer and some AI can type that stupid wall of code for you even faster than you ever could….
Little bits from the video:
– VSCode increasing not only the code but also the menu and side bar section when you zoom in and out always annoyed me. If I zoom out, screen real estate becomes a scarce resource quickly.
– GPU rendering sounds really bad ass, but what about people who stopped throwing money in NVidias direction on principle? Is Zed it even running on AMD APU systems?
– Zed only works on a Mac? facepalm
The cycle is real
Atom killed by vscode
Vscode killed by zed (atom reborn)
Zed uses more GPU sporadically while you scroll because it's FPS is not capped on mac. It actually uses variable refresh rate capability of latest macs. That makes it seem butter smooth without consuming needless battery by ALWAYS rendering at max FPS. It actually goes down to 0-1 FPS when not scrolling. I mean, if there's nothing updating in the UI, while redraw the same picture 120 times a second?
ZED is the Wish Version VSCode. It got over hyped and then died off like the rest of the garbage tooling alternatives.
well i absolutely hate vscode and switched to vim already i don't think i can leave vim now
it prob drains battery faster
Why is it faster? First off, it's not an Electron application. SOLD!!!
I am used to RStudio and it has many conveniences that I have come to depend on. Now, whenever I try to open VSCode, I feel like a fish out the water. Like, how can I see the variables in my environment? how do I set the working directory? How do I view my tabular data or just JSON? it's a mess indeed.
Vs code freezes when opening huge files (like 20k lines of code or some big json data file) which was my biggest issue with performance. I wonder what it's like there.
good luck getting zed to work in legacy projects. Hope they fix it soon, looks awesome and pretty fast
I started using vim and notepad++ then I found phpstorm by jet brains. Sure it costs a few dollars a month but I'm making my living using this tool. Database connectors and syntax errors with multiple languages simultaneously. When vscode came out, sure I tried it. Did it start up faster? Sure. But could vs do more? Not on your life! Want to see the function parameters while your typing? Not in vs. Want to quickly jump to a css declaration? Not in vs. is jet brains using AI ? Yes. And programmatically one of the best in the industry. But the best part is I don't have to worry if I'm giving my code to Microsoft. MS manager can code own login page! Take that code monkey!
It is fast alright. But the lack of extensions are a deal breaker
2ms?!?! I don’t see it. The fastest drummer in the world managed 2370 beats in 60 seconds. If my math is right that’s 25ms/beat. And that’s just beating a drum head as fast you can go. Typing is a considerably much slower process. In the auditory world science tells us the human brain/ear can’t distinguish two noises if they are less than 10ms apart. When I played electronic drums once latency got below 10ms I couldn’t tell. So VS Code is perfectly fine for me. Eeking out 10-20 more milliseconds will be completely lost on me.
1:36 I wish you would have varied the order in the file open tests, because it looks like vs code had to access the file from disk, then zed got the cached copy from memory.
It doesn't.
Oh! Too bad they missed the chance to call it zap ⚡
for me, the mere fact of not using electron is enough
Really want to try out zed, but no remote editing is a dealbreaker for me, unfortunately.
finally a worthy partner for my office PC which crashes 5 times a day
It's all pointless when you type on a crappy laptop keyboard 😂
Its not ganna kill VS code… vs code has extensions and customizability… if something is faster means its smaller and less things are in it
So many new rust GPU focused software. I wanted to like it, but it crashes too often. I'm sticking with VS code. Also Why they're only allowing usage of chatgpt is weird, why not the competitors too? A deal?
Somethings just off with Zed and I cant figure it out right now. but its mainly the business side of things that's concerning as opposed to the crashes.
Zed is available on Linux now. I have it installed on Debian 12
By the time Zed is feature-rich and mature enough to be a viable alternative to VS Code, VS Code will have been ported to Deno or Bun, rendering Zed’s performance benefit moot
neovim 0.000001ms
My gosh, yeah I've fallen into the trap of trying to switch to neovim or build zed on my windows pc, but whenever i go back to vscode I'm just like: Wait.. this is good though? It's totally not slow at all for me… do I really need to switch? (btw I can accept that mastering vim motions etc could legitimately make using neovim more productive, but it takes too long to get there, and if I'm already incredibly used to vscode and I feel productive in it, really, why switch.)