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๐ฌ๐ง What to expect from LGA 2066 and Xeon W? Lenovo P520, W-2133, W-2150B vs. E5-2697 V3
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which one is better??
xeon e5 2680 v4 or xeon w2135??
Wonderful video as always. Itโs true that x299 isnโt worth it right now, but I feel like itโll become the new x99 considering these tested CPUs are some of the worst in the lineup with small cache sizes. Soon there will be better w Xeonโs on the used market like the e3/e5 xeons. Those will come with larger core counts, cache, and clock speeds. Right now itโs more of a waiting game for this platform!
I am getting p520 with W2135 or E5-2640V4 with 64gb ram I need only for work editing autocad No GAMING can I buy which cpu is better for me ,please guide me
I really hope 2066 prices get close to 2011-3 prices, and we have a new used xeon boom
Hello @Miyconst ! I'm currently checking those workstation as I would like to build a all in one NAS. I would run an expansion card with 4 3.0 nvme slots, a 10G network card on the x8 slot and an intel arc A380 on the last x16. I'm just afraid of the idle power draw of the X299 systems despite being the server/workstation equivalent of kaby-lake. Did you got some time to test the power draw at idle of your systems and especially the P520 compared to X99/X79 ?
I like the W chips. At least my W5 2455x.
Side note: Your kitty cat makes it look like your PC is smoking when I paused the video. Them CPU Temps must be outrageous. ๐
I'm honestly loving my P520 ThinkStation. It came with xeon W-2135 6C/12T, 64GB ddr4 2666, 512GB NVME SSD (upgraded to 1TB) & a cute little GTX 745 (replaced with my GTX 1060 6GB card.) The only complaint I have is it hangs on boot screen (Lenovo logo) for nearly 2 minutes before it boots into windows & I'm not entirely sure why. Massive upgrade from my case swapped Dell Optiplex 7010 i7 3770 4C/8T, 32GB of DDR3 (I forget what freq the Ram is running @)
So, I think there's a bit of a double issue here. yes lga 2066 xeons didn't up the cache in most cases, but the B variants which are for apple seem to have reduced cache compared to their non B variants. the only apple B variant that seems to be identical to the regular variant is the W-2191B which retains all of its cache. you might redo this testing with a w-2145 or w-2155, I'd be interested in the difference.
Love the song at the end with context to video content ๐ (pidmanula, pidvela)
Great info. Validating my experience, even a 10400 is slower in games than th 2697v3. The only CPU's That I've teested that are faster are a 5600 and 5700x in gaming.
For photo and video editing, do you recommend a Xeon W machine over a second hand Ryzen 3000 build around the same price? Really not sure which way to go…
This is the first truly useful review of this machine for enthusiast use that Iโve seen. Great job and thank you.
dell 5820 takes xeon w and i9 cpus
Hi Miyconst. Tschuss!
Since it seems impossible to override the cryptographic key for the Lenovo motherboard, would you still recommend this base machine and adding a branded motherboard so that all-core turbo can be unlocked on the V3 chips?
Or does this defeat the value and appeal of such a workstation?
I have heard that some of the new Chinese boards allow the BIOS mod to unlock all-core turbo, but they have issues of the VRAM running too hot. And the used Asus and ASRock boards can be expensive.
I don't even know what main brand models support the V3 chips while also providing the features on the Lenovo, such as the multiple m.2 drives and many USB 3.0 headers, etc.
Do you recommend any specific board upgrade models, or even Chinese boards that are built with good quality?
In the U.S. sometimes we can find good bargains on Craigslist, but I'm not certain what Consumer CPUs are using the same socket, and most sellers do not state what board is in their system if they are selling a used system, as opposed to just the board by itself.
I think that many viewers would genuinely appreciate a follow-up to this video and would greatly benefit from your knowledge and recommendations.
We all truly appreciate your wisdom and can not thank you enough from the knowledge that you pass on to the community.
All I can say is thank you. And I hope that you have additional information regarding this otherwise very impressive system, with only the motherboard holding back its ultimate performance.
This machine paired with a turbo unlocked e5-2699v3 with 18 cores all running at 3.6GHz and a 45mb L3 cache would be a powerhouse of a machine, if it can be achieved within reason.
Is this possible?
Many thanks for all that you do….
Just curious, why do you disable hyperthreading on the v3?
Will disabled hyperthreading improve clock speeds especially with turbo boost fully unlocked??
Or is there some other reason for disabling?
Is that the same wuth hp z4 g4
And dell t 5820
Does they also have closed bios
And what about w2265
It has higher cash
Dies it has the same problem??
I would think the 690W PSU is way to weak for the 7900xt as the 900W seemed to be too weak for my 3080ti as I was having some issues with system crashes under heavy load(this was only with gaming and when I was running 2 P100s or 2 V100s and a low end quadro with the 900W psu I had no issues but I was limiting the power/watts and with machine learning there is less intense spikes in power draw.) I upgraded to the 1,000W PSU and the crashes went away with the 3080ti. Two other things. Who is getting these HIGH end GPUs and playing at 1080p? At 1440, 3k (wide 1440) and 4k I doubt there is as much of a bottleneck.
Thanks for all these info. I watched for LGA 2066 a while ago and wasn't able to find any deals. Seems it really came down in price now.
Will you do more testing once all 4 RAM channels are loaded? I can't wait to see those numbers.
I think the CPUs that were used are some of the worst in that family (W-21xx) for gaming. I would bet that some of the the W-21xx and W-22xx processors are better at gaming than the turbo unlocked E5-2697 V3. W-2133 and W-2150B core clocks are simply too slow. The w-2135 (six cores) and W-2145 (8 cores) both have turbo core clocks that top out at 4.5ghz and will run at 4.4 and 4.3 ghz (respectively) on all threads. That is a big boost over the W-2133(six cores) and w-2150B(ten cores) top turbo clock speeds of 3.9ghz and 4.5ghz and on all cores both top out at 3.8ghz. Additionally, I am not sure if the memory latency is more of an issue than that of running in dual channel than quad channel. I am going to throw my 3080 ti in a w-2145 p520 and see how it performs in some of these games.
The price for these workstations in Europe seems a lot higher than they are in the US. At 400 Euro, the P520 is pretty bad value for most users compared to putting together a budget build with a recent generation desktop chip.
However, such a machine can be found for 1/2 the price on eBay in the US. There is a p520 with a W-2135 and 900w PSU though no ram, storage or GT710 for $125 ($180 for a unit with 32gb ram), for example. At that price, it's at least arguably worth getting to pair with a $100-$300 GPU for a budget gaming PC. I've also seen local sellers (of Precision 5820) in Los Angeles with lower price also.
The consumer variants of these chips aren't any better.
I had an i7-7900X (marked as i9) for a short while, and it was by far the most frustrating experience I'd had in almost 20 years. It wouldn't even work properly on default settings, as the Turbo Boost wasn't working as intended, and any tweaks to the turbo ratios resulted in either instability or overheating. For some stupid reason, it required you to specify which cores to boost, instead of the standard how many cores. For example, if you set Core 0 to boost to 45x, only Core 0 will do so, not cores 1~9, but games and programs won't always automatically run on Core 0. If you allow multiple cores to boost, they will do so at the same time and overheat or crash.